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Although I live pretty much in Manchester, I'm not from Manchester, but even I know the effect The Stone Roses had on the Madchester scene back in the very late 80s and early 90s. With one classic debut under their belt (and a divisive follow up which got itself a jokey mention in Shaun of the Dead) they were clearly the forerunner for Oasis and the whole Britpop movement that followed. Now 15 years after their breakup and having sorted their differences, Squire, Brown, Mani and Reni are reuniting for two huge gigs at Heaton Park in the city next year and a world tour thereafter. Their motivation? To resurrect a music scene which has become "boring, corporate" and uplift the national mood in these hard times. But, long after their and Oasis' splits, is there a market for revisiting those heady Madchester days? Judging by the success of both Liam and Noel's solo offerings you might think so, but other acts haven't fared so well sadly. New Order announced a reunion earlier last month (No, I didn't hear of that either!) and The Happy Mondays tried but failed to relive earlier glories. James and The Charlatans are still going and no doubt their loyal fan bases are as enthusiastic as ever, energised by a warm, nostalgic glow. However, since the hay day of these bands, the Hacienda's been turned into some trendy flats, The X Factor has stifled the music market to such a degree that Simon Cowell probably farts money nowadays while regurgitating well-known ditties to propel his dull acts to number one (Cher Lloyd and Connie Francis' hits sound awfully similar, you could argue), and the Steps reunion has generated more curious interest this week thanks to a Sky reality show. So can The Stone Roses make it in this market, and more importantly can they change it? Brown's hopeful at least: "We'll ride it 'til the wheels fall off, like we did last time. And they did fall off." Rock 'n' Roll! Tickets are bound to sell out fast, click here now to get yours. |
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brownstone27 on Sat 22 Oct 2011 @ 13:17 said:
Been a lot of re-unions in recent years; Pavement, Blur, Dinosaur Jr, Artery, PIL, Pulp...Some seem to just get back for a few gigs and maybe a special track (Blur) while some go on to record great new albums that kinda sound like their old ones but are really great anyway (Dinosaur Jr). Stone Roses would be pretty good to see live as with most of these things I missed them the first time round. Nothing could possibly come close to seeing a re-formed Pixies at a festival some years ago now. That was amazing! A much better argument for re-forming than say Take That or Steps....
bobdobelina on Sat 22 Oct 2011 @ 20:21 said:
I was disappointed when Pixies didn't record a new album, that could have been great. I saw Pixies first time round though so didn't bother this time. I did catch Dinosaur Jr last year as I missed them first time and they were great and you're right, their new stuff is just as good.
I hope the Stone Roses record a new album though, 8 months before the gigs so they have a bit of time on their hands. Who knows, maybe they've already been working on it with no pressure before deciding whether to do these gigs?
Is there anyone else you'd like to see reform? I'm not sure I'd like to see a fat Morrissey sweating his way around a stage in the name of the Smiths. I'd like to see Pink Floyd do one last tour before any more of them die. Also At the Drive-in would be great, I saw them live in 2000 and they were amazing. Others I never caught first time would be Slint, Nation of Ulysses and Fugazi.
soundbunny on Sat 22 Oct 2011 @ 20:25 said:
I wish I'd seen Pulp! How were they, Andy? As for Stone Roses, I reiterate what I've said elsewhere: I'd rather see Mel and Kim reform. There's nothing wrong in bands getting back together to make a bit of cash, of course. If anyone's gonna cash in on the band's legend, it should be the band themselves. But the fact the erstwhile members kept banging on about how they would never reunite and they wanted to concentrate on the future until very recently makes it blatant this is just for the case, possibly spurred on by watching Pulp this summer, a brilliant band who were basically ignored out of existence back in the early 00s, play to huge crowds. However, that's not the way the fans will see it and when the inevitable fragmation happens after the live dates I think it'll leave a nasty tase.
soundbunny on Sat 22 Oct 2011 @ 20:26 said:
I just want Pulp to do a tour! Stop twatting around with books, Jarvis, and do some proper work!
bobdobelina on Sun 23 Oct 2011 @ 10:50 said:
I want Pulp to do an album otherwise they're no better than the others that have reformed for money. They'd have made a fair bit from the festivals this summer as well.
Only at the end when their last album was poorly received were they forgotten. Even then they played Leeds and Reading just behind the Strokes. I think they split up too soon, they should have stuck it out but a couple of average reviews and they called it a day, only the band to blame for that.
Who's to say the Stone Roses didn't mean it when they said they weren't getting back together? I'm sure plenty of people have pointed out how much money was to be made, I don't think anyone would be stupid enough to turn that down, even if it meant going back on your word.
thrownlikeastone on Sun 23 Oct 2011 @ 11:16 said:
That Stone Roses are possibly responsible for the swaggering, self-congratulating corporate-sucking blandless that was most of Britpop(never mind the dull baggy 'Mad-chester' phase that preceeded it) is why they shouldn't reform, who'd wanna be reminded of that. But fair play if they're just in it for the money, why not, even if they're not exactly renowned for their live performances. I do tend to have a bit more respect for bands though that do not choose this path.
I'd rather not hear a new album as music has significantly moved on since then and there's a huge danger their output would be dated and embarrassing, unless they tried something different.
I would though still love to see The Cocteau Twins and Slowdive reform, since I never got a chance to see either and I'm eagerly waiting to hear where Dead Can Dance are playing next year since I missed their brief reformation in 2005
soundbunny on Sun 23 Oct 2011 @ 11:58 said:
I would go an see The Smiths should they ever reform, cynical and uncomfortable though the atmosphere would no doubt be on stage. Otherwise, Pulp aside, I'd rather bands didn't reform. I'm getting a bit sick of old gits clogging up the top of the pile in their lust for faded glory and financial solvency. Let's have some new blood.
soundbunny on Sun 23 Oct 2011 @ 12:01 said:
Although I DO want David Bowie to release a new album and tour!
bobdobelina on Sun 23 Oct 2011 @ 12:07 said:
It's usually a sign of the state of the current music scene when a lot of old bands reform or tour. I'd like nothing better than a new exciting scene and being able to watch these bands in small venues. The only recent 'scenes' haven't really been scenes at all, if you take chillwave and witch house for example, it's just bedroom music. With the state of the world at the minute, we need something angry and loud to unite people.
soundbunny on Sun 23 Oct 2011 @ 12:11 said:
Urrrrr.... I just had a premonition of NME seeking Ian Brown's views on the Arab Spring and the Occupy movement. Strap yourselves in, people, it's going to be a long winter.
thrownlikeastone on Sun 23 Oct 2011 @ 13:31 said:
I think bands reforming does give a chance for those who were too young/too isolated geographically to go (my situation) and see the gigs, to see great bands from their youth - I was pleased to get to see My Bloody Valentine (twice) and Dean Wareham perform Galaxie 500, who were both great, whereas Gang of Four and Jesus and Mary Chain both disappointed. I'm looking forward to Bitch Magnet too and would love Seam, Codeine and The Field Mice to reform
brownstone27 on Mon 24 Oct 2011 @ 20:07 said:
Hven't seen all those bands I've listed! Would have been great to see Pulp but alas. Have ssen Pixies as mentioned and went to see Blur paly in Hyde Park (London not Leeds- if only they would play the Brudenell!). Blur was a little disappointing as you always end up feeling a little detatched at those massive concerts. Everthing's just too far away. Close second to the Pixies had to be seeing a reformed Swans play Leeds Uni last year, they were fucking incredible! In general though I say, never split up just keep changing the line-up and keep making great records...I'm lookin' at you Mark E Smith!
Disfordangerous on Mon 24 Oct 2011 @ 20:33 said:
The Happy Mondays reformed and the resulting new album was patchy to say the least. Im looking forward to seeing the Sone Roses produce a new album which is definitely on the cards from what i've heard. The Smiths reforming would be huge, even if you are not a fan of them. Personally i was hoping The Police would have done a new album instead of a huge payout tour.
bobdobelina on Tue 25 Oct 2011 @ 10:58 said:
If Sting ever goes near a recording studio again he should be shot.
soundbunny on Tue 25 Oct 2011 @ 11:02 said:
Or rainforest. Or a madrigal.
soundbunny on Tue 25 Oct 2011 @ 11:05 said:
Why does Ian Brown look like Mick Jagger in that picture?